How to choose between a phone and a camera

13 iul. 2020
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The Sony Xperia 1 II or the ZV-1? If the most important thing on a new phone for you is the camera, what if you just bought a camera instead of a new phone? In this episode of Processor, Dieter Bohn compares the Sony Xperia 1 II smartphone and the Sony ZV-1 "vlogging" camera. They're designed for different things, but looking at them together can teach us something about how to choose our technology.
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0:00 Intro
0:54 Here’s a question
1:28 Sony camera world
2:23 Sony Xperia 1 II phone
3:38 Sony ZV-1 camera
5:56 How is the ZV-1 has a vlogging camera?
7:39 Back to the Xperia 1 II
8:59 Photo examples
9:24 Hi Vjeran
10:56 Answering the question
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  • Would you buy a camera instead of a new phone?

    The VergeThe VergeAcum 6 luni
    • Phones camera fail often Id rather buy a camera.

      fierrosoftfierrosoftAcum 2 luni
    • I bought a new phone to use to start my channel. I needed a new phone, im on a budget and I picked the galaxy a51 and really regretted it. So i panicked and researched and landed on the motorola one zoom....and that camera makes everything look slightly blue. So now I need to decide which phone i hate least and return the other one...or return both and start over. I considered buying a camera for my channel but my budgets $500 max and I cant imagine I can get a good camera with that. Anyone have any suggestions be it phone or camera, youd be saving me😂 i cant make a damn decision to save my life. Its slightly concerning actually 😂 im a young widow and hes been gone a few years but I am reminded of how much I relied on his input to make choices lol I have been told to get a iphone but ive used google photos for so long

      JuliaJuliaAcum 5 luni
    • Definitely it's nice to have a smartphone with a good camera. Who wants to have a smartphone because of the camera only.. sony user here eversince..♥♥

      Belinda VillarenteBelinda VillarenteAcum 6 luni
    • The Verge Yes! Every time. And I have.

      Ilpo HeikkiläIlpo HeikkiläAcum 6 luni
    • @Loki27 Smartphone is not only a social media accounts device, you know. Quite opposite, it is basically a powerful pocket size mini-computer with constant Internet access, 24/7 news, GPS, Skype, emails, documents creator, reader, music player, very capable camera with photo editing tools, phone etc etc. But the camera is just the camera, you know. I can only make photos, nothing more.

      Victor RumyantsevVictor RumyantsevAcum 6 luni
  • This is quite true, when shooting photo with my phone i actually want nearly full auto mode, but if i want to take "the" picture and i want it to be perfect, i will take my Fujifilm xe1 with mostly manual settings (thanks god Fujifilm has beautiful and useful manual dials).

    FlxFlxAcum 23 Zile
  • Say duh one more time I dare you

    Elie BarakatElie BarakatAcum 27 Zile
  • Maybe xperia world? Hehehehe

    Emmanuel AbuzoEmmanuel AbuzoAcum lună
  • The best camera you can have is the one you have with you at the time, and opportunity will not wait for you to get the gear you left behind because you were not planning on a photo session that day. Some of the most iconic photos were taken with the cheapest most amateur camera produced at the time.

    Alex ValentineAlex ValentineAcum 2 luni
  • Listen to the intro of this video at 0.25x speed. It's magical!

    Adam JamesAdam JamesAcum 2 luni
  • My S8 is already on it's last life and I want to get myself a camera as well so I'll give the xperia a try and if I like the camera I will give their cameras a try.

    DOICES LifeDOICES LifeAcum 3 luni
  • I stopped watching the moment he mispronounced the name of the Xperia 1 II phone.

    ClavierPixelKeyClavierPixelKeyAcum 3 luni
  • That makes sense. Painting isn’t drawing. Drawing isn’t sculpture.

    Seth K JohnsonSeth K JohnsonAcum 3 luni
  • Wish I would've seen this sooner. I got the Xperia 1ii and it's AMAZING. Packs a lot more than the Pixel 4 does, and actually feels worth the price. But I could totally see myself saving $1000 too lol

    SD WaterSD WaterAcum 4 luni
  • Xperia 1 ii vs canon m50 anyone’s opinion?

    B BB BAcum 4 luni
  • Great insight, thanks. A shutter button makes a huge deal for stability on a phone and the standard controls for an exposure triangle will let you have the creative options. If I didn't have a rx100vii I would have bought this phone.

    Adam MuiseAdam MuiseAcum 4 luni
  • Alpha rocks

    KL GuptaKL GuptaAcum 4 luni
  • Mark mark markkkk twoooo

    Dhimas Tri PrastyoDhimas Tri PrastyoAcum 5 luni
  • US not support 5G beacouse Sony not like Carriers lock mobile and put in own things that changes Sony's Android system have and lock so just work in there own 5G so not Then work in another and That Not Sony do and reason Got late in to USA was beacouse not can be unlock so work to all Carriers 5G Had to enable 5G from phone so had to take back to Factory and take 5G away from phone if like to sell it in USA so when That call Freedom is not Freedom are Other Decide you're freedom and that Just do Not get Tech other get have to buy Internstionel version That work to all 5G 🤔 So areUSA Rules that Do that not can use 5G same patent Got out from Apple so Can use On off and fingerprint in same Place that reason had to have separate when Phone before had to enable fingerprint Reader for not use Apple Fingerprint reader are USA Have Rules Sony not like lock up and 5G must do of not go sell phone in USA so freedom you in US think have that not have 🤔

    niclas lindmanniclas lindmanAcum 5 luni
  • Unless one needs to vlog, get a phone. Who really brings a camera daily?

    Lu G.Lu G.Acum 5 luni
  • First you need a table

    Torin NayakTorin NayakAcum 5 luni
  • Dude it’s Xperia 1 “Mark 2”

    Abdul AdenAbdul AdenAcum 5 luni
  • Great review, however, I completely disagree with the statement about style and technology. This is questionable, your vision of style can not be dependable or compromise due to the technology. The technology should serve and could leverage aspects of your vision. I am a Sony photographer and I take advantage of new aids and features, but the core is not the technology, I can shoot with a Nikon or Canon as well, even with a really old box. Now technology is more instrumental of people's need, for example I do bicycle touring to some areas that are not suitable to take certain equipment, so a multi-feature cell phone, that could offer some shooting options could be the answer, or as you said maybe a small camera with the motion options.

    Alfredo PerezAlfredo PerezAcum 5 luni
  • I am gonna save you time: Buy what you want!

    Souvik MondalSouvik MondalAcum 5 luni
  • 01:08 Your third attempt and yet you couldn't spell the Sony Xperia 1 Mark II right.

    Pixel Shader™Pixel Shader™Acum 5 luni
  • My global model set of Xperia 1 II Support 5G and RAW mode now. Worth while buying. ✌️

    Thomas ChongThomas ChongAcum 5 luni
  • dude you seems 65 in this video

    Ujjwal KumarUjjwal KumarAcum 5 luni
  • Just review the phone separately we want to know how it works as compared to other phones not a camera we know a proper camera will perform better than a phone camera "duh"

    Sanyam KalraSanyam KalraAcum 5 luni
  • Nice video!

    zedftofficialzedftofficialAcum 6 luni
  • da!

    Pradeep KurianPradeep KurianAcum 6 luni
  • that thing you did from 2:32 to 3:05, don't do that!

    Aditya PrabhakarAditya PrabhakarAcum 6 luni
  • Simple answer: you wanna play or you wanna take photos?

    Fish 3010Fish 3010Acum 6 luni
  • I bring only iPad pro 11 as camera for photography...is it normal?

    ZECT צוריZECT צוריAcum 6 luni
  • Gej

    max maxmax maxAcum 6 luni
  • I don't care about all the blablabla! People just want results! The process of getting the results should be easy too. That's it! The rest just does not matter at the end of the day!

    CloutCloutAcum 6 luni
  • I don't usually care about how people are dressed in reviews but I wanted to point out the very nice fashion sense here

    HasanHasanAcum 6 luni
  • I think this was a fair discussion on both cameras, especially the Sony camera. And Vjeran was right. It really depends on philosophy and what you want to do with your camera. I hope Sony invests in Auto Mode on their Xperias and keeps this pro mode. I don't think it's a gimmick. I just think the market demands point and shoots first, pro mode later.

    James WJames WAcum 6 luni
  • I have an ipad mini. Reading is lot easier than a phone now. Now it is more logical for me to have this zv1 camera. Than iphone.

    Kiran sankar patiKiran sankar patiAcum 6 luni
  • Sony zv1 costs 1100 bucks in my country so what do you think I should do😂

    Sourav DeySourav DeyAcum 6 luni
  • I've purchased this phone brand new for £799, however as of yet I've not captured one good image - my Z flip captures much sharper photographs. I'm not familiar with how to get the correct settings - night images are shocking. Can anyone offer some simple advice, before I return it?

    Michele PlattsMichele PlattsAcum 6 luni
  • 2:28 it's the Xperia 5 not xperia 1

    Shane VyasShane VyasAcum 6 luni
  • I missed a bit more picture comparison and video side by side.

    Kris from BerlinKris from BerlinAcum 6 luni
  • 10:39 cracked bottom corner

    Dan QDan QAcum 6 luni
  • Just some feedback, the out of focus specs looked very strange. But just an opinion. Love the channel.

    Fabio A.Fabio A.Acum 6 luni
  • I thought I'll be watching some Xperia 1ii vs a Camera. All I end up watching is ........ meh

    Kunal _Kunal _Acum 6 luni
  • If you review a product could you at least bother to learn how to pronounce the name correctly ? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    sleepyICsleepyICAcum 6 luni
  • Just a few days ago I made the decision to not buy a new camera and just buy a good phone because phone cameras have been catching up a lot to the point where most point and shoot cameras on the market are effectively obsolete.

    Anton FetzerAnton FetzerAcum 6 luni
  • You make excellent reviews and vids Deiter :-)

    Rich TaylorRich TaylorAcum 6 luni
  • Too much overacting 👎👎

    Prashant ChaudharyPrashant ChaudharyAcum 6 luni
  • Super small ask for the photos section outside selfie... can you wear a mask when outside? I know there may be 0 people around, but I feel like we need mask advertising right now.

    Jordan CrawfordJordan CrawfordAcum 6 luni
  • Dieter goes off the rails!

    Brandon CarsonBrandon CarsonAcum 6 luni
  • For the first time ever, Dieter's review kinda.... Duh...

    MS JMS JAcum 6 luni
  • Who trusts these idiots on anything tech related?

    SevenForce80SevenForce80Acum 6 luni
  • ZV-1 makes more sense TBH

    Isaac AlonzoIsaac AlonzoAcum 6 luni
  • Duh.

    XennicXennicAcum 6 luni
  • Stop saying duh! 🤦‍♂️

    Ree:ReeRee:ReeAcum 6 luni
  • This guy have zero energy or passion in his reviews if it is not apple products

    Ara JAra JAcum 6 luni
  • Does the Shooting grip connect to the Xperia 1 II?????

    CWV A Daily Dose of Real LifeCWV A Daily Dose of Real LifeAcum 6 luni
  • This video just kills Sony’s phones. I get everything said. But it’s a Sony killer.

    Matthew GonzalesMatthew GonzalesAcum 6 luni
  • Am I only one who hate that blur effect in the video?

    Anshu KumarAnshu KumarAcum 6 luni
  • I think the footage from the zv1 is so noisy because the nd filter was on 1:28

    beton scheitelbeton scheitelAcum 6 luni
  • For me, it’s all about the convince of one device that’s always on me. That means a smartphone. If I’m going to invest in a camera it WILL NOT be a point and shoot.

    Garrett GreenGarrett GreenAcum 6 luni
  • It's easy: If you want to make phone calls, buy a phone. If you want to take photos, buy a camera.

    Feng WangFeng WangAcum 6 luni
  • Sony is like a tuned Supra of the car world

    jukijunkjukijunkAcum 6 luni
  • Eww stop putting headphone jacks on phones already

    David RamirezDavid RamirezAcum 6 luni
  • Useless comparison, i'd buy the sony phone obviously cause it's great in everything not just having a top notch camera duhh

    Mochang 09Mochang 09Acum 6 luni
  • Choose between phone and camera ho ok Ok their is camera all long the video where is the phone I mean where is the normal things on a phone is it good for it 🤷‍♂️🤷🏼

    Lokesh LokiLokesh LokiAcum 6 luni
  • Never seen a more boring Tech video. Guy says he wants to quickly run through the specs but takes a 5 second pause before starting... Wut🤐

    Moulik GuptaMoulik GuptaAcum 6 luni
  • Xperia 1 ii is unlike any other android phone I have seen and I can’t pin-point why.

    pratik kumarpratik kumarAcum 6 luni
  • Pretty repetitive and thus superficial.

    Joe FilterJoe FilterAcum 6 luni
  • My next camera has to shoot 4K video so I just might be entering the Sony world. Never been there. Only Canon, Nikon, Panasonic etc.

    Ilpo HeikkiläIlpo HeikkiläAcum 6 luni
  • I love this smartphone so much im learning videography for about one year and i want took movie on Xperia 1mark 2 but i dont have that much money to buy can you send me that smartphone? I will be so grateful

    Nika ShalamberidzeNika ShalamberidzeAcum 6 luni
  • 4:38 No animals have actually been terminated during the manufacture and making of this wooly camera sleeve 😂😂😂😂

    SydneySydneyAcum 6 luni
  • Dieter Bohn after three cups of coffee and five months of quarantine.

    FortegoLiteFortegoLiteAcum 6 luni
  • Very insightful video

    Aljosa CebokliAljosa CebokliAcum 6 luni
  • At last one you tuber has finally worked out, yep it’s not 1200$ worth of good. No phone is worth over 400$ full stop including Apple! Your being fkd over big time.

    Tony PowerTony PowerAcum 6 luni
    • So why are you here then? If you don't like phones that cost $1000 then you have no business looking at them.

      Michael RobsonMichael RobsonAcum 6 luni
  • does Sony know you cracked their brand new phone? at 10:39

    Alan CoronaAlan CoronaAcum 6 luni
  • The ZV-1 might be okay as long as you don't have high-quality aspirations. As soon as you switch from it back to the A7III... the magic fades big time. For me personally, I have no problem watching VLOG-style content, but if the quality is only middling, I have trouble staying involved. Upping the IQ makes a big difference in terms of my engagement (as does some real editing vs. stream-of-consciousness style presentation), but maybe I'm unique in that matter.

    Joshua TatroJoshua TatroAcum 6 luni
  • This video is just about neh.. and duh..

    MuhdZikryMuhdZikryAcum 6 luni
  • I like verge videos they are very informative and the videos are very high quality but they are not famous because they won't hype about it , hype should not be about product , hype should be about the video which increases views like MKBHD

    SandySandyAcum 6 luni
  • Could it be possible that Android as an operating system, is stopping Sony to tune its camera as good as their "real" Cameras? I mean, take any other Android flagship phone for example, they are never true to nature - extreme over processing, no matter how all those "big and famous" reviewers go Ga-Ga over vivos and Oppos and OnePlus' and Huaweis cameras. If I see something really not that attractive scenery, I would want my camera to show me the same thing. I don't want to see a sewage waterline to be shown as the purest water flowing to the world.

    Akash YadavAkash YadavAcum 6 luni
  • Did anyone just heard "pakalam"....😂

    90s_KID90s_KIDAcum 6 luni
    • no

      NoHomework16NoHomework16Acum 6 luni
  • You guys should try and make a computer! You could expand instead of just making phone and camera reviews and stuff like that you can teach us how to make computers! Oh wait a minute...

    AquaticAquaticAcum 6 luni
  • your not so professional camera reviewer...

    ken rken rAcum 6 luni
  • lifeless?? omg or do u mean more natural??? stupid if u want oversaturated photos get huawei, samsung..

    ken rken rAcum 6 luni
  • if u use AUTO i will stop watching..

    ken rken rAcum 6 luni
  • Да!

    Gleb IaskevichGleb IaskevichAcum 6 luni
  • I love this superfast specs check format 😍

    Víctor Valero VecianaVíctor Valero VecianaAcum 6 luni
  • Just replace that stock camera app with a gcam mod? Or will it cause compactability issues due to new sensor?

    062-Mithunraj Suresh062-Mithunraj SureshAcum 6 luni
  • I think the „point and shoot“ segment as well as the „holiday cameras“ segments are slowly being replaced by phones. Our phones have the ability to zoom, be waterproof and most of the time take better pictures than a camera in the same price range would do. I dont see dslms or dslrs going anywhere soon (ok maybe the days of the dslrs are counted). Any „pro“ photographer will tell you that its mostly about the lenses and less about the sensor, so thats why a phone has a hard time replacing a pro camera for many usecases.

    Christoph TaritaChristoph TaritaAcum 6 luni
  • A failure of an argument. The problem is that there ARE people who DON'T bring their DLSR or even a Compact camera everywhere they go, but they always have their phone. The statement that the best camera one has is the one they have with them comes to mind, and while cell phone cameras can make fantastic processed photos that are better than the average individual might be able to make, an experienced DLSR/Mirrorless photographer, or for that matter cinematographer, doesn't want the phone making unexpected decisions about how their work will look. They want full control, and that is who this phone is targeted at. If one wants a point and click phone cam, then get a point and click phone cam, because there are literally tens of thousands of them out there, but this phone is the only phone that is dedicated to the photographer who wants more control out of their phones camera. Thus it's a very specific niche, and it will appeal to that niche.

    Bill YoungBill YoungAcum 6 luni
  • How to choose between saying duh and doh

    Godswill UmukoroGodswill UmukoroAcum 6 luni
  • Awesonnn videooooo..!!!!

    David LeónDavid LeónAcum 6 luni
  • All dedicated cameras comes with removable batteries while smartphones with decent camera quality don't, if you are a vlogger or you want to shoot a long video, u realize that swapping out the battery is important.

    Maverick MadisonMaverick MadisonAcum 6 luni
  • brilliant video as always. clear, detailed and easy to under estimate the effort required to pull it off. MKBHD wants his crown back

    Chris KellyChris KellyAcum 6 luni
  • Hei, they should have removed the standard camera app, you can use the pro one in full Auto, just select Program mode , DRO Auto, and that's all folks

    Adrian DobreAdrian DobreAcum 6 luni
  • You're "meh" expression kinda adorably audible everytime I hear it.

    Rhowen CaguinRhowen CaguinAcum 6 luni
  • I've never heard Verge curse on their reviews but hey that's pretty cool.

    Josh LintagJosh LintagAcum 6 luni
  • Step 1: You need a table

    Private RyanPrivate RyanAcum 6 luni
  • I really like you, dude. Are you single? ~Trav

    Travis RicheyTravis RicheyAcum 6 luni
  • still dont know how

    Tony GanTony GanAcum 6 luni
  • I will pick my iPhone every day instead of my Sony A7rii if iPhone just adds video background blur.

    Tech With AdilTech With AdilAcum 6 luni
  • Nice review 👍🏻

    denny hermawandenny hermawanAcum 6 luni
  • "doobly doo" Someone watches Bandrew

    Ade MagnayeAde MagnayeAcum 6 luni
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