What iPhones can tell us about new Macs

16 iul. 2020
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Apple’s total control over its hardware and software has been critical to the success of the iPhone. And now, Apple is potentially poised to bring those same benefits to its new ARM Macs. Here’s what the new ARM chips might enable in the future of Macs.
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  • What are you looking forward to with the new ARM Macs?

    The VergeThe VergeAcum 6 luni
    • i am looking forward to the LOLz i am gona have when ppl realize this is a step backwards that is made for more profit

      egarumegarumAcum 4 luni
    • @the universe hmmm let me think , i got one word for you "APPLE"

      egarumegarumAcum 4 luni
    • @balram sharan I wouldn't make the move just yet to rely on the iPad as your only computer

      Geffá OliveiraGeffá OliveiraAcum 5 luni
    • Since some of the major apps are already on the A12z does this mean that apps like full-fledged Excel and photoshop will be available on the Ipad os as well? Am asking because I am considering buying a new iPad pro with a new magic keyboard as my only computer. Can I? Considering the future of apps on ARM?

      balram sharanbalram sharanAcum 5 luni
    • Ok

      Mikołaj WróblewskiMikołaj WróblewskiAcum 5 luni
  • 6:25 did I heared correct ? ... Some of the biggest Mac developpers .... Microsoft Word, Microsoft Powerpoint ?

    KuboKuboAcum 2 luni
  • 4:18, what software is that?

    Raul Gerardo Huertas PaivaRaul Gerardo Huertas PaivaAcum 2 luni
  • I doubt a touch screen Mac as of right now. But then again Apple making a touch display they could use the same magnetic system they already have in the pro display for easy rotation.

    Inky KitsuneInky KitsuneAcum 4 luni
  • ARM was invented by a company that made desktop computers

    Reuben ButtReuben ButtAcum 4 luni
  • 0:04 DUBDUBDC

    Prasad AherPrasad AherAcum 4 luni

    pelpelAcum 4 luni
  • Beginning of the end for windows, and Microsoft in the OS game. Windows can’t transition into the future. Customers rejected addition of touch elements to windows(windows 8) and developers don’t care about Microsoft’s mobile offerings. Microsoft is already transitioning into services/developer company.

    Chris JordanChris JordanAcum 4 luni
  • I think he is from Lucifer s5 the lily man

    Rohan BirwadkarRohan BirwadkarAcum 5 luni
  • 0:17 didn't they switch from some Motorola architecture before?

    rohaan Omarrohaan OmarAcum 5 luni
  • Yay! Now after watching this 10 minute video, I still have no idea what the iPhone will tell me about macs!

    MyLuckySupereggMyLuckySupereggAcum 5 luni
  • 2:54 AMD: "am I a joke to you?"

    Lucas deABREULucas deABREUAcum 5 luni
  • everything went with steve

    DharunDharunAcum 5 luni
  • Don't act like it's interesting

    Dulana WijeratneDulana WijeratneAcum 5 luni
  • Screw with confidence.

    jaycee agapitojaycee agapitoAcum 5 luni
  • 1:16 huawei marks their own chip to

    CyberDasherXDCyberDasherXDAcum 5 luni
  • I'm a windows user that uses an iPhone, air pods, and apple watch. I was going to switch to Apple to get the whole eco system because I could still game just dual booting to Windows. With this upcoming change I am now second guessing my decision and will probably just stay a Windows user.

    None YaNone YaAcum 5 luni
  • How TF would an ARM SOC make a Mac Computer like an IPhone? There are Chrome books out there running on "Cell Phone CPUs". This is nothing new. This channel is the epitome of disinformation.

    Armando D'ErricoArmando D'ErricoAcum 5 luni
  • Good video

    Maxwell DubiosMaxwell DubiosAcum 5 luni

    Mr. Stark I don't feel so goodMr. Stark I don't feel so goodAcum 5 luni
  • Dub dub d c is one of the dumbest phrases I have ever heard

    Owen NashOwen NashAcum 5 luni
  • Is that 7:14 a bigger version of Rowan Atkinson?

    Eggo May PradanaEggo May PradanaAcum 5 luni
  • Better performance is almost a given on these new macs, but I’m looking forward to better thermals and better battery life. Those are the two biggest reasons why I can’t justify buying another Intel Mac. Charging those things cost you money as well and when my Laptop Mac feels like it has to be plugged in at all times, I feel like “why didn’t I just buy an iMac if it’s going to be stuck to the wall anyway”. I’m also hoping for FaceId and LTE. I really feel like those features are going to make the Mac a far more appealing options to even the general consumer.

    strossstrossAcum 5 luni
  • Is this a long commercial?

    Lucian MLucian MAcum 5 luni
  • How to regurgitate content 101

    Siddhant TembhurnikarSiddhant TembhurnikarAcum 5 luni
  • I doubt they'll make an SoC for Mac Pro, except they make dedicated swappable graphics cards

    Chukwudi EzeukwuChukwudi EzeukwuAcum 5 luni
  • Will other laptops get these apps not just the new one because that would be really silly

    Creeper NationCreeper NationAcum 6 luni
  • Where’s your wireless anti static bracelet!!!! I WANT ONE

    BaguetteMaster GBaguetteMaster GAcum 6 luni
  • Yeah.... Millions of iOS available day one for a arm apple laptop

    ApolloVIII YouAreGoForTLIApolloVIII YouAreGoForTLIAcum 6 luni
  • Dub dub dc 🤣

    Piyush KashikarPiyush KashikarAcum 6 luni
  • who is this extraordinarily uncomfortable guy

    Mike FaleyMike FaleyAcum 6 luni
  • I hope they won’t make computer fully touchscreen usable. Because I will miss the keyboard sounds and it would not be that different than an iPhone, or iPad.

    Roman DodiaRoman DodiaAcum 6 luni
  • ‘The future of Macs’

    kh-news feedskh-news feedsAcum 6 luni
  • Don’t even compare Apple’s approach to Microsoft’s.

    Samuel O'DanSamuel O'DanAcum 6 luni
  • Yes Verge stick to Macs please.

    Me NozzyMe NozzyAcum 6 luni
  • You still got the wireless static bracelet?

    Mister DaviMister DaviAcum 6 luni
  • Does he even know what he's talking about

    dzjuben2dzjuben2Acum 6 luni
  • oh this is why I don't watch the Verge. The comment section has more knowledge than the video itself. How?

    NTH THNNTH THNAcum 6 luni
  • I’m scared ARM chips might have limited performance challenges

    DafeDafeAcum 6 luni
  • Great example of how little 'the media' actually knows pretending to give these 'expert' talks and getting most facts wrong (ffs Wikipedia that S bro!).

    C MC MAcum 6 luni
  • Apple: Switch to ARM based chips Verge: goes to a park 🍍

    Niraj: The MaverickNiraj: The MaverickAcum 6 luni
  • dubdubDC

    JimonaldoJimonaldoAcum 6 luni
  • How the hell does an iPhone tell anything about a device that is 20x more complex?

    Bruh MomentBruh MomentAcum 6 luni
  • What I want the most is iPhone camera hardware in a Mac. Especially in a time where we all do way more video conferencing before we need much better webcams. Other than that I am confident in Apple - their hardware design team is the best in the world and the iPad Pro already outperforms MacBooks.

    The DudelinoThe DudelinoAcum 6 luni
  • 3:48 Arm computers in by no means a new idea for desktops and laptops, many linux capable computers are Arm based this is inclusive of almost all chrome books where it is perfectly possible to flash a less locked down linux or BSD distro than chrome/chromium os. The raspberry pi has been using arm for years and the latest ones are (apart from the lack of graphics performance) at least as powerful as low end x86 systems with a much smaller form factor, power consumption and in some cases even price.

    Ella StanforthElla StanforthAcum 6 luni
    • Not mainstream. We geeks know them but not normal people

    • And linux has a huge amount of software that will run on arm. Bassically everything that's opensource will run on arm maybe with the exception of some kernel modules like the darling-mach kernel module.

      Ella StanforthElla StanforthAcum 6 luni
    • Also, if an app has been written well and in a portable way, in most cases a simple recompile should port it to arm just fine

      Ella StanforthElla StanforthAcum 6 luni
  • I hope these guys know about mobile phones better than they know about personal computers.

    joshua cruzjoshua cruzAcum 6 luni
    • You’re pretty late pal

      stoner bonerstoner bonerAcum 6 luni
  • Lightroom CC works on iOS, and it works really, really well. I don't know why Adobe hasn't ported it over to Windows on ARM. It's really the only app I really need and a Surface X would work for me. Because of this, I use an iPad for on the go editing.

    Drew PeraDrew PeraAcum 6 luni
    • The answer to how many sales it had, will tell you why they did not bother to port it, in contrast from day one they ported the entire creative cloud, and all the Microsoft office tools to arm mac

      4everzapy4everzapyAcum 5 luni
  • how do we know apple silicon means ARM? Maybe theyre just gonna start making their own processors just for macs . All the benefits you mentioned would still be present but without the limitations of a mobile foundation. i find it unlikely that apple will limit themselves to sharing the processor of an iphone with a much more capable macbook or imac. I wouldnt be surprised if apple started a new line of chips just like they did for the A-series, just for desktops and laptops.

    Harvey LimHarvey LimAcum 6 luni
    • It is based of arm instructions set.

  • According to me apple will not face a rocky road due to app support like windows is going through because app makers know that whatever happens windows is always gonna release its x86 version of its OS. But in Apple they slowly but surely they gonna get this thing done, sooner or later there macOS will withdraw its support from x86 chips. So better make sure to port them. Whereas Rosetta is not runtime emulator that windows used, it is an compile time emulator. Which means app are translated not when app is running, but when app is installed, which releases a huge overhead on CPU.

    VedVedAcum 6 luni
  • The app ecosystem is possibly the reason why there is a shift to ARM processors for all Macs to begin with; alongside with the idea of preserving battery life while the MacOS system itself can simultaneously run as fast as their iOS counterparts could.

    Gabriel SanchezGabriel SanchezAcum 6 luni
  • Difference being that the Pro X isn't the only way to get into the Windows ecosystem. ARM-powrered Macs on the other hand will (eventually) be the only way into MacOS.

    Nick BNick BAcum 6 luni
    • @C M What are you replying in regard to? My reply was with respect to the implication that the Pro X somehow shows that ARM isn't successful as a desktop platform. Nothing to do with hackintoshes.

      Nick BNick BAcum 6 luni
    • There is already an ARM version of Windows, but the ARM cpu isn't the problem, the T2 chip is, pretty sure in 3 years no new mac wil work without a T2 chip so hackintoshers are going to face a real challenge.

      C MC MAcum 6 luni
  • Nobody is going to say anything about that squirrel in the back?

    Filippo PiantanidaFilippo PiantanidaAcum 6 luni
  • That old couple, though...

    Super OkapiSuper OkapiAcum 6 luni
  • You are in public, without mask.

    Mr. J PMr. J PAcum 6 luni
  • 4:04 Verge : "No one's actually made even a high-power laptop powered by ARM chips, to say nothing of desktop or full-fledged professional device." Fugaku, world fastest supercomputer (it is based on ARM): Yes. You are Right!

    Abhisek UpadhyayaAbhisek UpadhyayaAcum 6 luni
  • I didn't know the kid from American Pie worked at the Verge

    Sean C.Sean C.Acum 6 luni
  • Ever since watching Rene Ritchie’s video I wince when someone says “switching to ARM”..

    NNAcum 6 luni
  • "we don't know anything about it, but still we will make this video just for the shits and giggles."

    Kunal KumarKunal KumarAcum 6 luni
  • What a shallow take. It's almost an advertisement.

    Gen LeaGen LeaAcum 6 luni
  • Nice park. Please feed the squirrels.

    roman2011roman2011Acum 6 luni
  • I believe the fastest computer the world is ARM-based. I'm pretty sure Apple Silicone can compete with Intel processors and laptops and desktops.

    Cactus TweeterCactus TweeterAcum 6 luni
  • Apple's transition to Apple Silicone is the third transition. Remember before Apple transitioned from PowerPC to Intel it transitioned from Motorola to PowerPC.

    Cactus TweeterCactus TweeterAcum 6 luni
  • They're going to bow to pressure and update to Z-80 CPU. Of course, as usual, they"ll grind off the printing...

    Larry ButlerLarry ButlerAcum 6 luni
  • My thought is Apple mentioned they won’t be fully giving up intel. Perhaps they will use intel chips on pro Mac devices (iMac pro, Mac Pro) and ARM chips on consumer devices (iMac, Mac mini, MacBook Air).

    littleAZN248littleAZN248Acum 6 luni
  • Them eyebrows within the glass frame made me so distracted 😂

    Samiul SifatSamiul SifatAcum 6 luni
  • Wow this is big news

    Red KnightRed KnightAcum 6 luni
  • what about GPUs?

    Ravi KumarRavi KumarAcum 6 luni
  • By the time you made this video, we already know how fast the Apple ARM is Ipads are already outperforming highest end MacIntels in the same processes and with ARMS operating with much smaller specs.

    sam guaposam guapoAcum 6 luni
  • Man this guy has to be the worst Verge video host ever! Put bloody Dieter back!

    Kh-SKh-SAcum 6 luni
  • I don’t know

    Abdulelah Al-AbdullatifAbdulelah Al-AbdullatifAcum 6 luni
  • Game developer are already porting, not to arm Mac, but to mobile. That’s the marked where they can earn by far the most amount of money. That’s making the ARM macs the gaming beasts of the future, just to say. And I don’t think, that it was a just a happy coincidence, that no 32 bit apps are running on macs since last year, that they switched over to metal und rebuild everything to APFS. They done it right, so right that everything is set to get by far the biggest player in every field

    marek schawelmarek schawelAcum 6 luni
  • Never thought I'd say this.. but I like the other guy better.. at least his videos seem to be more researched and factual

    maxroman2010maxroman2010Acum 6 luni
  • Dub dub DC? LOL!

    Engorgio ArmaniEngorgio ArmaniAcum 6 luni
  • He looks so much like Ryan from the office (BJ Novak)

    Dhanesh ShahDhanesh ShahAcum 6 luni
  • Apple transition from Intel is just smart. Dont forget there are couple of professional apps in iPad and it is as powerful as the desktop counterpart. Migrating this to their Mac is just make sense.

    Jo ZhJo ZhAcum 6 luni
  • 2:25 look at that squirrel in the back left!

    RusuRusuAcum 6 luni
    • Even the squirrel more interesting than the whole video 😂😂😂

      DeepBoyzDeepBoyzAcum 5 luni
  • Good thing you don't have to assemble the new Macs...

    Owen CarterOwen CarterAcum 6 luni
  • This puts Apple directly compete with Intel. What if Intel AMD make faster CPU than Apple?

    jdengsky1jdengsky1Acum 6 luni
  • I used to like apple now im samsung user 2 months now

    ftdgvyt playsftdgvyt playsAcum 6 luni
  • Microsoft didn't really have a plan going into Windows RT or Windows on ARM, or any of that. And then they just dropped the Surface Pro X, or whatever, like it would just work out. Honestly, I think they're trying to herd computer industry cats. Apple, instead, so much legwork before even announcing their transition to Apple Silicon: adding robust mouse support into iPadOS (so those apps will feel seamless on the mac), switching to Swift and unifying the Mac & moble APIs, rolling out Catalyst, making Rosetta 2 robust enough to run Maya and Tomb Raider, working with Adobe / MS in private to get their apps working on ASi, etc. They're just taking this much more seriously.

    Tim BrownTim BrownAcum 6 luni
  • and first you'll need a table

    vorlexyyvorlexyyAcum 6 luni
  • Apple silicon is not ARM, it's just using the same instructions set which ARM uses.

    Sunny ShuklaSunny ShuklaAcum 6 luni
  • dub dub DC

    WilliamWilliamAcum 6 luni
  • the squirrel 🐿 so tame!

    Azrin SunbaeAzrin SunbaeAcum 6 luni
  • 8:31 what's that keyboard

    Alex WolowieckiAlex WolowieckiAcum 6 luni
  • which keyboard is it in the background at 8:30?

    nidhish lakhinananidhish lakhinanaAcum 6 luni
  • My Ryzen 9 shits on whatever ARM processor Apple is dreaming up.

    John SmithJohn SmithAcum 6 luni
  • Why does the second guy start his segment with a deep sigh???

    Steve LeeSteve LeeAcum 6 luni
  • Cellular on all mac. No simcard. When almost all apps I use need internet. Wifi is good. But not everywhere.

    Joakim ElfvingJoakim ElfvingAcum 6 luni
    • use hotspot

      Zhu JingqiZhu JingqiAcum 6 luni
    • Rave_hacker on IG fixed mine ... 100% assurance

      John westJohn westAcum 6 luni
  • Oh no. Will we have all the OSes eventually converge to one? That’s something to think about…

    Vinc TayVinc TayAcum 6 luni
  • Isn't he Federijji?😀

    Айрат ХабибуллинАйрат ХабибуллинAcum 6 luni
  • Full control over producing iPhone's and iPads? You mean those devices with Samsung screens and Sony camera modules?

    Robin 't JongRobin 't JongAcum 6 luni
    • yes they have full control samsung and Sony manufactures them not design them

      Zhu JingqiZhu JingqiAcum 6 luni
  • Get to the point.

    Norrin RaddNorrin RaddAcum 6 luni
  • All you need to know about Apple products is that you pay a small fortune more than the technology is worth, just for the status of owning an Apple product, which nobody cares about anyway.

    The FearmothsThe FearmothsAcum 6 luni
  • I seriously thought this was Adam a Driver for a minute

    Keegan BriskeyKeegan BriskeyAcum 6 luni
  • I seriously don't get the point of this video. It paraphrased almost everything that was said at WWDC or right after.

    Irakli008Irakli008Acum 6 luni
  • Why am I watching this when I don't even use iPhone or a mac?

    prajjwal chaulagainprajjwal chaulagainAcum 6 luni
  • dub dub DC? 😄

    Bharat LagaliBharat LagaliAcum 6 luni
  • "It's going to make your Macs a whole lot more like your iPhone..." OMG. I should have known better than to watch the Verge for anything technical.

    Luke WellsLuke WellsAcum 6 luni
  • puke!

    Uma Mageswaran PerumalUma Mageswaran PerumalAcum 6 luni